Summary
Interview with Prof. Richard B. Freeman, Faculty co-Director of the Labor and Worklife Program at the Harvard Law School, on “robots”, the law of comparative advantages, human labour, the Universal Basic Income and how to bridge the capital/labour divide via capital ownership.
Update Magazine I/2019 |
Warnings that advanced “robots”¹ and automation threaten employment fill the media. How seriously do we need to take these headlines?
Richard B. Freeman:
The economic principle
of comparative advantage suggests that the
impact of robot technologies will be on the
work tasks that people do and the income they
earn from that work, rather than in joblessness
per se. Comparative advantage holds that even if robots outdo humans in every job, firms will
hire human workers. They will hire humans to do
jobs or parts of jobs that humans do at lower
cost than machines, while hiring machines to do
the work at which humans are more expensive.
Having my own kids in mind: What do they need to understand about the future of work and the competition with robots?
Richard B. Freeman:
The key question in the
“fourth industrial revolution” is thus whether
robots will shift comparative advantage from
humans to machines in the high-paying cognitive
activities that have been the hallmark of human
advancement. Are you going to work for the
robot, or is the robot going to work for you? Past
automation technologies gave comparative
advantage to machines in physically difficult or
dangerous work, or provided workers with tools
that enhanced human ability to do that work.
Because the machines/tools were specialised
and could not think, humans had comparative
advantage in tasks that required cognition and
flexibility in switching from activity to activity or
from issue to issue. When technology displaced
workers from agriculture to industry, and from
industry to service sector jobs, workers gained
better jobs with higher pay than before
automation struck their workplaces. Robotics
and software automation at the outset of the
21st century extended machine comparative
advantage from physical labour to routine
human work.
Got it. My kids need to go to university. But will a better education help in struggling for a better comparative advantage?
Richard B. Freeman:
Think of Google’s AlphaZero
algorithm, which learned by itself to master several
games in nearly real time. If AlphaZero needed
just 24 hours to learn from scratch to dominate
strategic games, imagine what its Nth prototype
will be able to do twenty years from now when
today's children enter the job market. Who you
gonna hire in 2040 – new college/high school
graduate John or Martha or AlphaN, who will
almost surely be connected to some Cloud
computing site? In a world of digital work,
comparative advantage in cognitive tasks seems
destined to belong to the machines.
That reminds me of a dialogue between Henry Ford II and the leader of the automobile workers union, Walter Reuther. Henry Ford II: “Walter, how are you going to get those robots to pay your union dues?” Walter Reuther: “Henry, how are you going to get them to buy your cars?”
Richard B. Freeman:
You put your finger on the
point. The effect of AI robot technologies on
income depends on who owns the technologies.
In a world where machines do much of the work
and receive much of the earnings, the economic
winners are the owners of the machines, while
the losers are workers who compete with the
machines. If you own the robot that does your
job/the jobs of others, you benefit from the new
technology. But if I own the robot that does
your job, tough luck suckah!
So, let’s talk about capital ownership!
Richard B. Freeman:
There are two ways to
distribute income so that the vast majority of
humans benefit from the “intolerable abundance”
that AI robot technologies can bring to us. The
first is to spread ownership of capital more
broadly than it is today by expanding employee
ownership of the firms where people work, and
ownership of business capital in the rest of the
economy. Ownership guarantees that a share of
the improved productivity from ever smarter
machines goes to people as owners of the
capital, rather than as workers competing with
the machines. The second is to undertake a tax/
spending policy that taxes the owners of capital
per Bill Gates' proposed robot tax or Thomas
Piketty's global capital tax, and use the moneys
to deliver goods and services to citizens, as in the
Universal Basic Income that has attracted some
attention. Following the “who owns the robots
rules the world” apothegm, I focus on the
ownership solution.
Ownership and capital income vs. concentration of capital and redistribution. How to strengthen capital ownership?
Richard B. Freeman:
The starting place to
increase workers' ownership of capital is at their
workplace, and the natural way to do this is to
increase incentives for firms to introduce new or
to expand existing compensation systems that
link worker pay or wealth to the performance of
the firm or work group; and to give incentives to
workers to participate in such programs. A great
virtue of employee ownership is that it bridges
the capital/labour divide by incentivising workerowners
to raise firm performance, which can
benefit non-employee owners as well as workers.
Aren’t there limits to that kind of ownership? My grandma always told me: “Never put all your eggs in one basket.”
Richard B. Freeman:
Indeed. Workers will need a
substantial stake in business capital outside their
firm, as well as in their employer. If you accept the
claim that the expansion of robot technology will
shift comparative advantage in high value added
cognitive activities to machines, and that
ownership of capital is the best way to avoid the
dystopia of an economy dominated by a small
minority of owners of the AI robots, the road
ahead is clear. Employers, employees, labour
organisations, and governments should implement
policies to increase employees' ownership in their
firm, and to make more citizens owners of capital
in the broader economy. Pension funds and their
allocation into equities, for instance, could become
a very important vehicle necessary to assure that
the vast majority benefit from a technological
future in which AI robots do more of the work and
earn more of the income from work.
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